A recent study has some exciting results. In fact, it strongly indicates the discovery of dinosaur DNA! I would be curious to hear some thoughts on this: @burrawang @burrawang @windar12q @S.M.S. @cwh @T_aquaticus @Kirk Peters @ekrause1406 @knelst @patricktnj @jammycakes.
Here is a link to the original study:
https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwz206/5762999
Here is a link to one of Jay Wile's blog posts discussing it:
https://blog.drwile.com/no-other-explanation-dinosaur-dna/#more-24138
Wow! This will be an interesting discussion to follow. I've always appreciated Jay Wile's balanced approach and his thoughtful science. I'm curious to see the refutation attempts that will certainly abound. Thanks for sharing this!
I also appreciate Jay Wile. I'm not entirely sure that there will be refutation attempts (per se), but I am indeed curious to see how our evolutionist friends will respond to the discovery (and see if their explanations will ultimately stand up to scrutiny).
I forgot to tag @rspeir in the post above, so I think I shall do it here! @rspeir, I am very interested in hearing your take.
Wow! Exciting; what are the next discoveries going to be? Could this be the tip of the ice-burgh; are there many more finds yet to come? Thanks for this Jonathan, it has made my day.
Not too underestimate this find, which is still in its investigation period, but it may add to that which I have been trying to find an answer - what caused the demise of the dinosaur?
Science has put forward many theories, but nothing substantial as yet. (I don't agree with any scientific theory that has been put forward so far.)
Thanks again, this is brilliant if proved to be true.
Best wishes.
Hello Jonathan, I feel I have to explain why I think the find of Dr Wile's, if genuine, would mean so much to me.
I have through research reached my own conclusion as to the demise of the dinosaur; though difficult to explain, I shall give it a go.
The total energy of a system includes the sum of kinetic energies. The potential energy function corresponds to the situation.
13.8 billion years ago, our world was this one energy system. 3.8 billion years ago that energy began to change its form and a biological energy was forwarded; which became a kinetic part of its absolute. ( Earth. ) This biological energy system was driven by the same force as all energy and was chained to the same laws of nature. Its form lasted for a time of more changes and to survive its continuing formation, it had to fluctuate; this enabled its energy to go on changing. If it was not allowed to do this, then like all energy, it would implode on itself. This applies to all energy, whether biological or not. Without this fluctuation, intelligent life could not have begun.
Though science tries to explain the demise of the dinosaur, it struggles to get a conclusive decision. This is because no plausible reason has so far been forthcoming. Religion puts it down to a divine influence, but science will go on hacking and will do so until it finds an answer.
Take the demise of the dinosaur and look at it in another way - if life is evolving as a one energy system, then that energy has to be able to change to survive - I am not referring to life itself, I am referring to the energy that supports life. The dinosaur's reign of terror would have left the more vulnerable life-forms searching for ways to survive and this would have meant the weaker species would become more intelligent because they had more purpose. Dendrites would be picking up more information from the neighbouring neurons in the brains of the vulnerable, than they would in the brain of the dinosaur. (This is energy, changing its form to survive.) Due to this change in energy, life began to scale down, allowing intelligence too flourish. This progress has gone on until the present time and brought with it the diversity of life we see today. The dinosaur's reign and indeed the scaling down in size, could be conceived as one energy changing its form to suit that one energy's needs. Look at the diversity of life as one energy, fluctuating to keep it from imploding; if all life reached the same level of intelligence, (The same level of energy,) life would implode. There would be no negative charge to balance the proportional function that energy is designed to conform with. Biological energy, has to follow the same rules. Einstein's theory of relativity is relevant to all energy. (Matter is energy.) In this way, the positive and the negative add up to zero. It is another law of nature and evolution must conform too.
I have mentioned before about our positive and negative emotions, which compliment each other; without this compromise, they would not add up to zero and life as we know it could not have existed.
Physicist, Richard Feynman's one electron theory failed because there was an unequal amount of electrons and positrons, but he was referring to the universe and all it contained. Entropy in the universe is fundamental when considering the activity of Black Holes, which is only part of what's going on. This is the universe settling down. Evolution is a contained kinetic energy within that universe and so the balance in that kinetic energy must be evenly balanced and when something comes along to upset that balance, nature quickly puts it right. (Energy adjusting itself.) EVOLUTION.
Darwin's theory of natural selection was referencing the selection of an individual in a species; the one energy system is for the entire species. It keeps the same pattern and keeps the level of energy needed for life to survive. (The balance in nature.)
You might find this confusing, but it is the best I can do.
Best wishes.
Thank you for sharing, @windar12q! I would be curious to hear if @MDS has any thoughts...
Hello there! This is quite a fascinating discovery. Who knows, scientists may soon have the technology to sequence the genome of a dinosaur from this DNA. I wonder what they would find: Would dinosaurs and birds really be as similar as scientist believe they are? Personally, I can't wait to find out.
That is an interesting theory about the demise of the dinosaurs, Windar12q. Do you believe the process is occurring in the same way today as species go extinct and new species are discovered, or do humans disrupt it? Some of the most common creationist theories about the fall of the dinosaurs include that they were unable to adapt to the radically different post-flood climate or that they were hunted to extinction by people who lived shortly after the flood.
I would also be fascinated by the numerous discoveries which would doubtless be made from the sequencing of a dinosaur genome! Although some definitely consider this impossible, I think I will maintain some hope and curiosity. :)
Hello ekrause, Biological energy is different from the universal energy, in that it is self serving. The changes you mention would not be observed in this complexity of life. All is observed as reality until we discover the secrets of our biggest mystery - the subconscious, then all reality will be established. Think about the dinosaur - did it disappear to allow that energy to develop? Was the reason that the primates stopped evolving to reach the same level of intelligence, was because intelligence had been reached? Don't they serve a better purpose to an intelligent life, staying the way they are? Don't think of it as different species, but as energy - one energy. (Would you put a 3amp plug into a 13 amp socket?)
Do humans have an effect on this energy? Of course we do, but we cannot destroy this energy. This is the beauty of self serving energy or any other energy; it can change its form, but can never be eradicated. If man makes a mistake, nature (energy) will put it right. (I remind you of the wrong plug for the wrong socket. ) We can only be guided by the pattern that energy dictates.
In lake Malawi there are 650 different types of fish and all are proved to come from one ancestor. They are all different in colour and the way they give birth. Science puts this down to different food means different species, but if these fish were given a better choice of survival, wouldn't it have been more satisfying for them not to mutate? Just one species being able to eat the different foods regardless (the same has us) would have been a far more logical way for survival, that is until you consider the pattern of energy. (The only sensible explanation is the fluctuation of energy,) A divine influence would have been a poor excuse also, because the logic is at fault.
When considering brain activity; think quantum mechanics - the energy of each proton is proportional to its frequency value, for all possible functions. It has been scientifically proved that protons can appear from nothing. (Check Stephen Hawking.)
I am not a scientist and am at a loss when trying to explain in scientific terms, but some times observation brings forth the truth - it must have been that way at the beginning, when man first started to think. It was only when man stopped thinking, did we start going forth blindly.
Best regards.
The obvious implication is that the dinosaur remains are only a few thousand years old at most. The imagined 65+ million years for the age of the dinosaurs is clearly a widely held illusion, that will likely take some years before it is ultimately accepted as having been experimentally and statistically falsified and discarded.
Common sense dictates that when verified dinosaur soft tissue and DNA fragments are found in unmineralised bone, the imagined evolutionary age is where the error lies, it's as simple as that!
There are no actual scientifically derived reasons that I am aware of to believe that the verified dinosaur soft tissue and DNA fragments are actually 65+ MA old; the "deep time" belief is wholly and solely the result of the mainstream academic predisposition to evolution mythology and the highly religious Darwinian dogma. It is only this predisposition that continues to propagate and reinforce this falsified theory.
It will become harder and harder to convince intelligent science students that evolution is how we came to be here in the face of the enormous body of evidence being produced by sound science that rigorously refutes evolution as an outdated, defunct and falsified theory.
The Bible can be trusted; the account of Creation and the global flood in Genesis are reliable historically and wholly consistent with what we observe today using operational science in fields such as geology, biology and astrophysics.
The global flood occurred about 4,500 years ago and the rapidly buried well preserved fossils of unmineralised dinosaur bone containing pliable soft tissues being discovered all over the world are entirely consistent with a global flood within the Biblical time frame whereas the unbelievable millions of years derived from the supposed evolutionary scenarios are leaving many scientists scratching their heads in sheer incredulity.
Every day is a good day for 6-day creationism and this news just adds to that fact. How could it get any better? Well, we creationists have our hands full trying to explain the way they date the rock, but I am optimistic that within a decade or two the truth will somehow begin to emerge that *all lava flows* that are used to date sedimentary rock will be found to be so overwhelmingly overstated that the obvious conclusion will be that they are all young - around 4500 years young and occurring at or near Noah's Flood. And for the universe? Well, that good news for the 6-day creationist is also probably just around the corner. Keep the faith! Things are going just as they are supposed to.
If it was true, which I doubt, it still doesn't prove the existence of God - it just means science got it wrong. Jay Wile is referring to the work of Mary H Schweitzer and her colleagues. She also made the same claims in 1993, which was disputed when the soft tissue was found to be the same as in frogs, chickens, newts and many other animals. Her 'office' on the site was discovered to be like a holy shrine of worship, which didn't do much to help her claim. Can you really expect anyone to take her word seriously?
Religion is to blame for many misleading principles and this debate is an example of this.
I have written twice to Dr Wile and each time my letters have disappeared. You can make anything true in your own mind if you dismiss all that which attacks your ideas. You can make fairies true, or dragons and Harry Potter, if you dismiss all the evidence that disputes it.
You mention Noah's flood and I have already discussed this with the same results; you don't associate things to God just because you have no other explanation, unless you can demonstrate it. The sedimentary strata found on Earth is also found on Mars and is attributed to water and erosion, there is no need for a God. I don't believe there is any mention in the Bible about the flood on Mars? When the Bible was written, they didn't know about Mars, all they knew was that heaven was somewhere up there.
Hi All, I thoroughly recommend watching this strikingly revealing film: - 'Dismantled Evolution' -- ‘A Scientific Deconstruction of the Theory of Evolution’ There will be a FREE one-time weekend premiere of this movie that can only be viewed at anytime BETWEEN 3:00 PM on Friday, Oct 9 to 2:59 PM on Monday, Oct 12 (Australian AEDT) NOTE: Times for other countries are listed at the short Film Trailer link below; but in all countries it will be available to watch for free this weekend. A short Film Trailer is at: https://creation.com/dismantled-movie From the page at the link, the following text can be found: - A scientific deconstruction of evolution Education systems and the media have repeatedly told us that humans and all living creatures evolved from a single-celled organism through random copying errors in the DNA (called mutations) and the reproductive filter of natural selection. This allegedly occurred over billions of years through unguided natural processes. Furthermore, we are told that the fossil record leaves no doubt that mankind evolved from ape-like creatures. Famous atheists like Richard Dawkins and Bill Nye tell us that we need to face the facts—we’re nothing more than an organized assemblage of biomolecules: there is no ultimate basis for morality, no ultimate meaning to life, no free will, and no life after death; humans have no soul and we will never stand before God to give an account for our lives. As Dawkins says, “DNA neither knows nor cares. DNA just is. And we dance to its music.” But what if the story we’ve been told about our alleged evolutionary ancestry is wrong, and the latest findings from modern genetics effectively falsify it? Would you believe it? The documentary can only be viewed for free at the same link this weekend only. https://creation.com/dismantled-movie
Hello burrawang, good to hear from you. Thank you for your recommended look into evolution, but even from the introduction I noticed one big error - DNA mutations are not speeding up to the extent that it cannot explain the evolution of life. We are a biological species driven by an electrically charged energy system. The speed of the mutations may occur due to its necessity at a specific time. You can't get away with directing today's speeds with that of billions of years of mutations. We are more intelligent today which means the electrical force correlating with the biological tendencies determine the speed.
More intelligence, more speed. Religion has been the main cause for slowing down mutations, by suppressing intelligence.
Hope you are keeping well.
Hi windar12q, thank you for your good wishes. I haven't as yet seen the film but it will be released tomorrow, that is Friday Australian Eastern Daylight Time at 3:00 pm, so I'll hold on any comments until after I've viewed the documentary that has been made by several well respected scientists who have large numbers of published peer reviewed papers and patents one of the scientists is a world leading Geneticist who has been a Professor at Cornell University for over 25 years.
I am really looking forward to hearing the latest rigorously performed repeatable science that falsifies evolution in all its forms and permutations as an impossible process that should be relegated back to the century around the 1850's where it belongs as another of man's feeble attempts to explain origins without God; which of course is futile, because it is clear to all from what has been created that the one and only Living God exists and is right now holding the whole of creation in existence. Whether individuals admit it to themselves or not they know God exists!
Natural selection is a real phenomenon, but it only results in differential reproduction within a population, it does not , I repeat does NOT create novel information.
As I have stated many times previously, at best natural selection can be looked upon as having a conservative function that to a very small degree slows the inexorable loss of complex specified genetic information every generation in the genomes of all life on this planet. It cannot do anything more than that. The bait and switch usage of natural selection by evolutionists as some sort of magic bullet that, hey presto, explains evolution is a shameful and deceitful fraud that needs to be called out every time it is employed to hoodwink the masses, a ploy which it has used unfortunately successfully I must add, for far too long.
This new documentary will set the record straight once and for all. Any competent Geneticist from anywhere around the world can repeat the experiments to verify the clear fact that evolution is a scientifically falsified theory.
I know how much your faith means to you, but if what you believe is not true then you are wasting what could be a very much more constructive life.
I had a dream in June 2012 which I had recorded (I am able to send a copy to you if ever I master the technique) I find new technology demanding at the age of 87. The dream was of a snow fall in midsummer and I even predicted the day it would happen - which proves we are connected to the elements. Mass is energy, so mass + energy = 0. We are connected to everything and everyone. There was a four inches fall of snow, and the temperature at the time was in the twenties. I predicted this nine days before it happened. All the evidence points to the first life-form being a dormant one and to survive that life would have had a selective instinct which connected to the elements. (Today we see these selective instincts in migration and hibernation; which are gathered collectively) My dream points not to the future, but to the present; the remnants that allowed life to sustain on its way along the evolutionary path, are still there. If you are wondering why we all don't have these dreams, the answer is we do. In our conscious world we can see and measure ability, but in the subconscious world we can't see or measure ability. I guess I got lucky.
Ghosts also belong to the energy that drives evolution - the total energy of a system, which includes the sum of kinetic energies is proportional to its potential energy function. Is evolution just a one energy system with all its kinetic energies doing what energy does?
Energy is not always stable, its fluctuation is needed to keep its balance; we see this in a normal star which has hydrogen forming into helium allowing its nuclear pressure to keep it stable against the forces of gravity, but occasionally it has to send out solar flares which help its stability. If life is a one energy system then ghosts are the result of its stability, (solar flares) they are pockets of energy and the reason we see them as ghosts is because we are a biological energy system - the pattern of energy is universal.
You mention the genome and the magical powers that rule, but what you are not seeing is a one energy system that is dictated to by its own needs -there is no need for a God.
It is so easy to mistake a trick of nature and call it supernatural, but that gets us nowhere, only going backwards. I think its time we should start to move forward.
There are 210 dreams in the Bible and perhaps you can now understand why they were thought to be the words of God?
Regards
Hello everyone! Thank you for telling us about the documentary, @burrawang. I just watched some of it.
****This post contains spoilers!****
Some of it was information I had learned about before, such as the description of why evolution will never have enough time to produce enough mutations to form a new species, especially given the frequency of harmful mutations.
However, one of my favorite parts was about the discovery of Y-Chromosome Adam and Mitochondrial Eve. Researchers have been able to trace the DNA in the Y-chromosome of people around the world to one male ancestor and the DNA in their mitochondria to one woman ancestor. This is consistent with the Biblical account of Adam and Eve being the first humans. Both evolutionists and creationists agree that Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam existed; the only debate is about what this means. I looked at several other online sources about the evolutionary view, and they believe that these individuals are our most recent common ancestors, but not our only ancestors. The evolutionary interpretation is that genetic drift caused the other mitochondrial DNAs and Y-chromosomes to die out (coalescent theory). However, according to the video this assumption is based on random mating (all humans having an equal likelihood of marrying all other humans), which is probably not a true assumption because humans live in separate population groups. According to the other sources I looked at, evolutionary scientists believe that the diversity in our non-sex chromosomes should be explained by a population of about 10,000 ancestors, not just two. However, as the video describes, humans can be extremely heterozygous, which means that one person can carry alleles for many different traits in their DNA all at once. If we make the very reasonable assumption that both Adam and Eve were created as heterozygous individuals, it is a good explanation of the diversity that we see today.
I also loved the quote at the end from Dr. Robert Carter (from 1:29:00 - 1:30:18) about how the evolutionary model keeps getting closer to what the Bible says.
Are you going to watch it, @windar12q? I would be interested to know your thoughts since you don't follow the mainstream interpretation of evolution.
Hello ekrause1406
No I didn't watch it, the time it was aired was too early. I am now turned 87 and need my beauty sleep more than ever. DNA can be traced to the beginning of all life and not just Adam and Eve. When you mention harmful mutations - what mutations are you thinking of? Individual mutations can be harmful, but there has never been a harmful mutated species. It's called a balance in nature. Stars are one energy systems and so are galaxies, black holes, solar systems, a species and also an individual within that species. No system can work oblivious of the function of that system and exceed its limit. Evolution, which evidence is telling us, is a one energy system, will explain the alleles and also the eukaryotic cells are instructed by a natural source to keep the balance and also determines the heterozygous outcome. The genome is subjective to the objective and so is everything else. The heterozygous individuals you mention as a possible reason for diversity is partly correct, but the reason for the diversity springs from a source we have yet to discover. The source comes from way back, before Adam and Eve were invented. By using this as an explanation for diversity is implying it was done by some divine power; that's an excuse when you don't know. 'Don't know' is not in my vocabulary. 'I don't know, so I will try to find the answer.' is what I use. If there is a problem, then there as to be an answer, the one justifies the other. By an answer, I mean a demonstrable one. Can you imagine where we would be if that attitude was adhered to by science - we would still be living in caves.
And finally ekrause, if we were omniscient like your God, we would have nothing to live for, knowing everything, is a curse. This is the reason there is no God and no Heaven, both would be a curse unto themselves. If all life reached the same level of intellect that too would be a curse - a one energy system stops that from happening. Consider yourself, you are a one energy system - if all life reached the same level of intelligence, what would there be to do?
Keep well ekrause. -
Hi ekrause1406,
I was impressed likewise by the Adam and Eve historical timeline account in the Bible being consistent with what we are now able to see in Genetics.
I also liked the section on Genome deterioration.
Geneticist, Dr. John Sanford coined the relatively new term Genetic Entropy to describe the incessant build up of mutational errors in the DNA that are not removed by natural selection because most of their effects are neutral or far too small to be selected out of the population, thus they persist each generation causing an ever increasing loss of specified complexity in the genomes of all life on this amazing planet; this is the exact opposite of what is required for evolution to be a plausible theory let alone even possible.
This scientifically derived irrefutable fact effectively falsifies evolution.
A shopkeeper that loses money on every transaction won't stay in business very long; likewise a genome that constantly loses complex specified information at the conservative rate quoted in the film of only 100 point (single nucleotide letters) mutations per generation will become less fit quite rapidly and eventually will become extinct.
This is precisely what is being observed by geneticists all over the globe.
Any competent geneticist that has access to modern equipment for reading DNA code in samples can repeat the analysis and arrive at the same obvious conclusion.
There is absolutely no way around this fact. Evolution is a falsified theory.
Of course the devout followers of the 'evolution religion' will not accept this fact and will do as they have always done, will move the goalposts, massage the theory and try and explain it all away with yet another dreamed up 'just so story', but nonetheless the rigorously derived and repeatable scientific facts are now available for all to see.
I have often wondered if the increase in the list of genetic diseases that now stands at around 250 diseases/disorders is caused by the inexorably increasing genetic burden that affects us all. If it is the case that this increase is due to the genetic entropy in our genomes, which I believe is highly likely, then the future for mankind is not at all positive from a genetic perspective. The beginning of this decay of our genetic material began at the fall in the garden of Eden. As a consequence Adam and Eve would have started out with perfect genomes, no errors at all. Since that time the genomes of all humanity has been deteriorating towards error catastrophe that lies at some point in the future and this is exactly what we are observing right now in the present; a steady decline in complex specified information on the genomes of all living things on Earth.
The only solution is of course, Salvation through Jesus Christ our Creator, our Lord and Saviour. The Bible can be trusted as the inerrant God breathed Word of truth that it is from Genesis to Revelation.
I'm reminded of the wonderful words in the song, "Jesus is the Answer for the world today, above Him there's no other, Jesus is the way"!!!
Yes ekrause1406, geneticist Dr. Robert Carter sums it up very well, "interesting".
Hi windar12q, there is still plenty of time for you to watch the film as it is available to watch at anytime for free this whole weekend only.
This documentary film runs for 1 hour 33 minutes 44 seconds.
Just click on the link: https://creation.com/dismantled-movie
and watch the film anytime on Saturday or Sunday. The time the film will cease to be available for you in Scotland at 4:59 am on Monday, 12th October.
London, United Kingdom
For you, the film is only available to watch for free ANYTIME BETWEEN:
5:00 AM, on Friday Oct 9 2020 to 4:59 AM, on Monday Oct 12 2020 (BST)
All the very best,
Burrawang
Thank you Burrawang. I have tried, but I could not engage, so I only have what you described in your letter.
1st point is genetic entropy. If life is a one energy system and all the evidence suggests this, then the entropy of an isolated system can never decrease, but it can become stable in parts. ( Thermodynamic - Equilibrium) Fact!
2nd point is I am not a convert of Dawkins or Darwin when distinguishing the pattern of evolution. It is not random, it is by design, but a natural design of that produced by energy. There is no need for a God. The deterioration your scientists see in the genome is the pattern set by a universal code of physics. Evolution = energy; energy cannot be false and so evolution cannot be false. I am not moving the goal posts, I am doing what science does, trying to be logical. I can demonstrate energy, but religion cannot demonstrate God. Mass + energy = 0.
This is the pattern of energy. A star converts hydrogen into helium, processing a nuclear pressure that stops the star from collapsing under the force of gravity. The fluctuations are necessary for stability and the same pattern applies to any one energy system, even to one individual human being - we are individual one energy systems. The deterioration that your scientists see is a normal process and doesn't affect the pattern of energy, in fact, it is the other way around -it complements it.
Sorry I can't agree, but take care.
Hi windar12q,
there is still time to watch this doco, all you need to do is click on the hyperlink and the film can be watched for free right up until 4:59 am on Monday, 12th October 2020 (BST - UK).
I encourage you to click on the link and watch this documentary.
To watch this documentary.
Click on the following link below in blue text: https://creation.com/dismantled-movie
All the very best,
Burrawang
Thank you Burrawang, I did manage to get on to it eventually, but it kept freezing until finally it came to a complete standstill. I had to shut down and restart. However I did hear enough to make me hesitate before resuming. If you start with the wrong premise, the rest of what you try to illustrate will also be wrong, let me explain. The scale of evolution as described is wrong if you look at it as a development of species - it's a development of intelligence or energy. Intelligence is energy of the highest quality and needs the room to expand. Room as in energy and not space. The dinosaur's demise is questionable, but its reign of terror is quite imaginable. If intelligence was the premise, then the demise of the dinosaur was inevitable and we see this decline carrying on even after the dinosaur's decline.
Then followed Science = evolution. Religion also = evolution. The reason there are thousands of different religions is because of the differences with intellect; that is how an intelligent species react to one another; it gives purpose. This is energy being used in the same way that evolution works. Perhaps one day we will come to realise this and the sooner the better. The lady narrator thinks that religion is evidence and evolution is wrong - I have mentioned before that mass + energy = 0 and evolution is mass and mass is energy. What she is really saying, but hasn't got a clue, is that energy is false. How can energy be false? Can you see the futility of trying to explain when you start with the wrong premise?
The micro and macro evolution seems to complicate the reasoning of those who start with the wrong premise and no wonder. Instead of saying they don't know, so God must have done it, why don't they say, I don't know so I am going to find out? I will help them - what they are considering is a one energy system with the same pattern as all energy systems - being a biological energy does not complicate the pattern.
Thanks again Burrawang, I did find it interesting.
I might try to see the rest of it later.
windar12q, I hope that you are able to watch the whole documentary before it ends early on Monday morning in your part of the globe.
In advance I apologise if this offends you but what you have written makes no sense to me at all and is clearly not based on empirical science of any shape or form.
It is crystal clear to me that all people are aware of the existence of God through what has been created though denial and unbelief in God's existence causes a blindness to what is plainly seen.
It is exceedingly obvious that everything has been purposefully designed but it is in man’s heart, that the denial of God manifests, such that those that choose not to believe in God’s existence will replace God with any number of alternatives to fill the void, just as long as they don’t have to acknowledge God’s existence!
Many use their intellect, historical science (through a biased worldview), eastern mysticism, new age beliefs, astrology, money, greed, selfishness, you name it, whatever comes to their fancy people will use to refuse to recognise the one and only Living God who created this universe, time and us and who is holding it all in existence right now. It is a spiritual matter, the intellectual arguments can only go so far to lead a person to the truth, but in the end it is always between God and the person. God knows everyone’s heart. He alone is the Saviour of humanity, just as He is also the Creator of humanity.
I sincerely hope and pray that you will come know the Lord Jesus who loves you and died on the cross for all of us and paid the penalty of death that His righteousness demands, He alone is faithful and true. Ultimately the decision to believe or disbelieve in God and His free gift of Salvation has eternal consequences for every one of us in the family of man.
You are wrong, energy is based on empirical science - the total energy of a system, which includes the sum of kinetic energies, is proportional to its potential energy function. This is the reason that all life has not reached the same level of intelligence, if this happened, intelligent life could not exist. It is the pattern of energy that keeps the universe and all within it from collapsing altogether. 2nd law of thermodynamics dictates entropy of an isolated system can never decrease, but this does not mean it cannot change. The fact is that mutations are part of this energy and are acting in accordance with the laws of physics, which help to keep a balance in nature. You have got to stop looking at the diversity of life, it is an isolated energy system that is proportional to its function.
Sorry I can't agree, but take care.
Sorry windar12q, but equating thermodynamic laws with life reaching intelligence and stating simplistic equations such as evolution equals energy and mass plus energy equals zero is if I am bluntly honest, 'nonsensical'.
The decision of whether or not you believe in God's existence is ultimately a matter of your heart and is a spiritual decision as much as it is a conscious one that has eternal ramifications. It is vital that you read the Bible with an open heart and mind and ask God to make Himself known to you.
I truly hope that your eyes are opened to the profound truth of the good news in the gospels that we are all sinners who need the free gift of salvation provided for all of us by Jesus our Creator, Lord and Saviour.
We are all here in this world for such a short time. Our lives fly past and the passage of time seems to accelerate as we get older. Whilst there is breath in each of us there is still time to call out to the Living God with a contrite heart and accept His gift of salvation.
All the very best windar12q.
Yours sincerely,
Jon (Burrawang)
Hello SMS, I don't believe all people including yourself are bad, my objection is to the damage done by religion in any form - it destroys individuals, families , countries and influences cruelty around the world. OK it does some good, but you don't need religion to do good. This is not a personnel attack on you and others of faith.
With respect, Burrawang, you don't seem to be familiar with Einstein's theory of relativity, mass is energy. It is not just me wiggling my thoughts willy nilly, I ask you to think of what everything is made of and then you will understand. As for your last request, it reminds me of Pascal's Wager. I can't live my life bowing down to energy - energy is not to be worshipped, it is to be nurtured and used for our benefit. How do you know what you are missing if you don't embrace the truth - you might be pleasantly surprised.
I understand your devotion to faith, but believe me, faith can so easily lead you down the wrong path.
Keep well SMS, Burrawang
The wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Rom. 6:23). We all die because we all sin. "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Rom. 3:23). But, "God demonstrates His own love for us in this, that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" (Rom 5:8).
Jesus said, "Whoever looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the Last Day." (John 6:40) With the overwhelming empirical evidence that Christ's tomb was empty on that first Easter, it is obvious that Jesus has the power to make good on this promise! And so, because Jesus walked out of His grave, one day we will walk out of ours.
This is God's promise to you, too, windar12q. And no matter how complicated you try to make things, it really is as simple as that. I just don't understand why you would refuse such a beautiful gift as everlasting life. At 87 years old, it seems to me that time may be running out for you. I continue to keep you in my daily prayers.
With kindest regards, Steve (SMS)