What is and what isn't? Looking at religion and evolution, will their disputes go on forever, will we ever find a compromise? Let's give it a go.
Dr Donald Hoffman is a cognitive scientist at The University of California. He discovered while researching the jewel beetle of Australia, that all life cannot see accurately.
The jewel beetle had been successfully breeding for nearly two million years giving science the idea that seeing accurately was a key to their success, Only the male beetle can fly, this enables him to spot the female on the ground - the female is brown, shiny and dimpled. Then came the jolly swagman and after drinking his beer he would throw his empties into the Outback Over a period of time the amount of bottles began to increase - the bottles were brown, shiny and dimpled; the poor male beetle couldn't tell the difference between a bottle and a female and so began the species decline. Taking this further; if all life cannot see accurately and this is beneficial to life; then what seems like a handicap is anything but.
To explain how this works, let's imagine two worlds and to simplify, I shall call them two jigsaws. Jigsaw No 1 is inhabited by a species that can see accurately; seeing accurately gives little or no constructive purpose. The jigsaw is completed in no time, giving the species nowhere to go which in time will lead to its demise. This appears a contradiction in terms, because the jewel beetle was becoming extinct and it could not see accurately. There has to be another reason why not seeing accurately was disastrous for the beetle and beneficial to us and to all life. I'll explain as I go on.
Jigsaw No2 is inhabited by a species that cannot see accurately; this life struggles, but its struggle gives constructive purpose, which is passed down to the individuals of that species and feeds its intelligence. This however leads to one big problem; if all life is in the same boat, (not seeing accurately) which feeds its intelligence, then why hasn't all life reached the same level of intelligence? Example; the jewel beetle, why hadn't it evolved to a higher standard, this would have helped it to survive? After much deliberation, I can only come to one conclusion - I can dismiss the probability of some divine interference, because that would have put me back on jigsaw No1 and on my way to extinction with no constructive purpose. The God of the Gaps would only stall the truth. This leaves me with just one choice - all life must be connected and working as a one energy system. Life started as one and must still be evolving as one, to the same energy pattern.
If we compare evolutionary progress to the patterns of the Cosmos and connect life as one system of energy, we have a symmetry that is hard to deny. Mass times space = 0, does that make intelligence times variety = 0. If we take mass as our grouped intelligence, then take the variety of lesser intelligence that make up for all the rest of life and call it space; the comparison between dark matter and the 'stability' of the universe and the 'stability' of life under evolution is too close to the mark to ignore. If all life had reached the same level, this would have been too much for the species to gather the food (variety) that is needed to feed intelligence.
Some have trouble with this equation; 'mass times space = 0.'and the best way is to use the description aired by the late Stephen Hawking, which is imagine digging a hole, and with the dirt from the hole you can build a hill, but you are still left with the hole. When comparing it with 'mass times space = 0; the hill is the planets and stars; space is the hole.
The Monarch butterfly migrates in its millions from North America to Central Mexico; a journey of 2,500 miles. It goes through three generations on its migration, but still manages the journey. The magnetic pull of the earth is suspected to have a lot to do with this, but the most important thing is; they are all connected for their survival. All life is subjected to the same laws of nature, but depending on the variety of the species, their survival instinct will vary. An intelligent species can adapt to any climate and therefore its needs are different. An intelligent life (apart from the obvious) depends on purpose; purpose is the food on which it feeds. No purpose, no you and me; by that I mean constructive purpose.
Going back to when life first began; was it by chance that a mutation happened, or have we not been seeing accurately? Did the mutation happen because that is what would serve its lineage or was it to produce its food? (Purpose.) Was this connection, this one energy pattern just serving itself with either, or was it serving itself with both? Surely the latter would be more beneficial to an intelligent species? In fact, it would be imperative, because just serving lineage would not create much excitement and certainly no variety. Variety is the spice of life. The one complements the other - lineage and variety.
The protozoan is a mystery to science in that it appears to have no common evolutionary history. It has a few animal characteristics, like being able to swim, but only relying on a membrane for its functions. It's as if its importance is irrelevant in the in the evolving of life; how can this be, surely nature doesn't produce willy - nilly? Are we seeing accurately when looking at the protozoan and its functions? If we consider the one energy system, then the protozoan is part of that one energy pattern and is fulfilling its place in that one energy. The protozoan could not exist and function if it was isolated; which it isn't; it is part of a communal system that works within the bigger structure called evolution. Once we understand this, the mystery of why it survives and its purpose will be finally laid to rest. This will include all life that defies nomination.
I will leave it there for the moment and hope it has got some of you thinking. Later I would like to explore more of the 'supernatural' such as 'ghosts' and 'dreams of the future' with the hope of modifying.
Greetings once again, @windar12q! The Galileo and Pythagoras discussion would be a great one to have (maybe at another time), but I was particularly interested in hearing how you thought that religion is stifling progress in the area you outlined. Thanks!
I see that you think define intervention is the reason behind the variety of life. That comes over has being decisive, what it is also saying is - stop thinking. Faith is not a reliable pathway to the truth and knowledge.
Could you please comment on Galileo and Pythagoras and make a case for our destiny without these free thinking men?
Hi, Yes ghosts are a good idea, they certainly are seen as supernatural when they are anything but. It was 1966 and my two sons were fast asleep in bed, which was in the back of the house. My wife and I were in our bedroom at the front. We were just about to retire and turn off the light when we heard our children get out of bed. We heard them cross the landing, making their way to our room. My wife and I in playful mood covered our heads with the sheet and waited. The children came into our room and stood by the side of the bed. There was no mistaking they were my children, the attempt to suppress their giggling was unmistakable. Uncovering our faces, we both said 'boo'. It was goosebump time. there was no one there. After checking I found my children were still fast asleep and not a hair of their head had moved. When discussing the incident with friends, all brought in the supernatural to explain what had happened and I began to realise how easy it is to see things in the wrong light and also how it stopped us from thinking. My thoughts didn't turn that way; using logic I decided because they were my children and not some kind of strange phenomenon caused by the spirit world, that it could have only come from the subconscious, but whose? The subconscious works 24/7 never stopping, so the source of the incident could have been any one of my sons or it could have been my wife or indeed myself. We shall probably never know the answer, but what I did learn from it was that the four of us were connected subconsciously. Expand on that and you have to ask - are we all connected? This is what got me interested in finding out about the side of life that eludes us because of the way that religion has played it. I am glad to say that science fact has helped on this journey and doors have kept on opening with every new discovery, like a jigsaw all the pieces began to fit together. You might bring up that my children were not ghosts so this doesn't count, but you would be wrong because you would not be seeing accurately. Energy is energy regardless of its source and the law of physics dictates this. Ghosts don't come from the dead, they come from the living. What if we could harness this energy? The mind boggles. Do you see now, how religion is stopping progress?
Hello Johnathan, You can describe 'not seeing accurately' as not thinking accurately too. In my post I describe how a conglomerate of atheists and religions give the illusion of individual participants when really they are acting as one. Let me try to explain the variety of life which in the greater scheme of things is supplying the different levels of intellect that an intelligent species needs to survive. Without these different levels there would be no constructive purpose. By the way the answer to 'not seeing accurately' is literal.
These dreams go on happening in the same way as they always have, so the format I described if correct, cannot change either. Abe's dream was not a prophecy, all he was doing was receiving the thoughts of the perpetrator of the assassination as he was planning it three days before committing the crime. I think the level of emotions determine the outcome.
In our conscious world we are blessed with different levels of ability, both physical and academic. The subconscious must also follow the same laws if ability exists there and all being on different levels of ability hides this , which makes it almost impossible to research. It is also the reason most dreams don't make any sense, but this too is just an illusion - we are not seeing accurately.
I understand how hard it is to accept something that goes against everything you have ever known, but believe me, there is a world of wonder out there that is beckoning if only we can open our eyes to see. I have trouble sleeping at night, not because I am troubled, but because my mind won't let me rest. I mean it in a good way and that is at the ripe old age of 85.
Let me try and explain the variety in life which you attribute to some divine power.
When a star reaches a proportion that cannot sustain its volume, then gravity causes it to implode. This creates a black hole, and in reality what is taking place is the settling of the universe - eventually the black hole will disappear and all will be stable. The black hole is an energy within the absolute energy we call the universe and being universal, energy has to obey the same laws whether it is a star that's imploded or a life that as begun as one. That too must keep from imploding, because like the star it is one mass of energy. This is what I mean when describing the variety in life, it is an energy that has to conform. If all life reached the same level of intelligence it would, like the star, implode. (By that I mean it would become extinct.) The variety is guided by these universal laws whether its biological or geological and not by some divine intervention. We can't go back to when life first started, but lets go back to when the virus was around which is about far enough for this demonstration. The virus lives in a dormant state until attaching to something that lives; only then can it go about doing that which it was gifted to do. This creates a problem - there was no life around to serve its purpose, it could only rely on this energy to supply this. You may ask why is the virus still around today, why hasn't it evolved? The simple reason is, the virus can withstand extreme heat and extreme cold; it can survive even in a vacuum; it is indestructible. If life for some reason came to an end then the survival of the virus would ensure that life could begin again. This is the energy doing what energy does; it can change its form, but it cannot be eradicated. I know this sounds complicated, but it does explain the variety that you mention. My only advice is to look at life as one energy and not pockets of energy, by that I mean don't look at it as different species, but as one. Thanks for the help with editing.