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Discussion Topic-What is science and what is theology? Which category does Creationism fit into?

 1.Abigail-I'm fairly sure that Creationism can fit into not only theology, but science as well. More and more scientific studies are proving that Creationism is a plausible way of looking at the world. Science is proving what people never thought it would prove.

  2.J.E.S-For my definitions, see: www.ce-debate.org/glossary.
I would say that, by it's nature as a theological concept, Creationism is most comfortable in that area. However, if the creation account is true, that has implications for science as well. By nature, science seems (to my understanding) to seek naturalistic explanations for the cosmos we inhabit. Insinuating that the universe is the construction of a divine, supernatural entity that surpasses all understanding seems to be unscientific for this reason. The important thing to remember is that Creationism is a philosophical worldview (see glossary). It's important to remember that philosophy and science are somewhat linked. While science accumulates a lot of facts and knowledge, philosophy is almost always used to interpret the data.

 

  3.Owen D.-I think Creationism--defined as: "The work currently being done by researchers, etc. to prove how and that the universe was created and is not the result of things outside of God"--is purely science (as pure as science can be) motivated by theology. Theology is the study of God--it seeks to lead to a better understanding of God. 99 percent of the work done by creationists today doesn't let us learn anything new about God--at least, no more than we can learn from enjoying the beauty of nature ("One impulse from a vernal wood | May teach you more of man | Of moral evil and of good | Than all the sages can") e.g. that God is powerful, etc. But I don't think this is any more of a theological purpose than there is in, say, the study of psychology, or any other science--unless we are to suggest that all observation of the world is theological. Such a claim may be true, but if we say that EVERYTHING is theological then the word becomes useless.

  4.K. Peters-Proverbs 1:7:  The beginning of Wisdom is fear of the Lord.  Science is the study of things in nature that are predictable and testable.  This requires that the things being studies are orderly.  Our God is a God of order,  He called the creation to order out of disorder.   This was the beginning of Science by Christians seeking to understand the order found in creation for the betterment of life for man.   A fascinating book to read is:  The Book that Made Your World.  It is by a man from India(the book is in my home library and I well provide the author later).   He writes in one chapter about the influence of the bible on the beginnings of science.   The rest of the book is about Christianity’s positive contribution to our Western Culture and to the World.  A great read.

In the book of Job,  ch 38 and following, God speaks about all the hidden things of creation that He Knows and has power over.   Much of science today, especially Evolutionary Theory and the Origin of Live studies are speculative(fossils cannot provide info about behavior).   In Job 38 and following God tells,  “Don’t worry I understand and handle all things.”

As the Scriptures attest,  there is a knowledge of God revealed in all things that have been made.   It is revealed in and through the creation, “so that men will have no excuse” for not knowing there is God.   Working in science and seeing the wonder and sophistication of even single-celled organisms “confirmed” in me that there is a Creator.   The natural World can do nothing to show us God’s attributes of love and mercy.   This we get from the Scriptures and the live and Words of Jesus incarnate.

There would be no science without the amazing brain and sensory organs the God has given to Man.

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